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@@ -23,14 +23,11 @@ fn ise_post(content: String) -> Void {
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let ise_url: String = env("SOUL_ISE_URL")
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let engram_url: String = if str_eq(ise_url, "") { state_get("soul_engram_url") } else { ise_url }
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if str_eq(engram_url, "") {
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let local_id: String = engram_node_full(
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let discard: String = engram_node_full(
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content, "InternalStateEvent", "state-event",
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el_from_float(0.3), el_from_float(0.3), el_from_float(0.8),
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"Episodic", "[\"internal-state\",\"InternalStateEvent\"]"
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)
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if str_eq(local_id, "") {
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println("[awareness] ise_post: local engram_node_full failed — ISE lost")
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}
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return ""
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}
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// Proper JSON string escaping: backslashes first, then quotes, then control chars.
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@@ -130,14 +130,11 @@ fn conv_history_persist(hist: String) -> Void {
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if str_eq(hist, "[]") { return "" }
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let ts: Int = time_now()
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let tags: String = "[\"conv-history\",\"persistent\"]"
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let node_id: String = engram_node_full(
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let discard: String = engram_node_full(
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hist, "Conversation", "conv:history",
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el_from_float(0.7), el_from_float(0.8), el_from_float(0.9),
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"Episodic", tags
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)
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if str_eq(node_id, "") {
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println("[chat] conv_history_persist: engram_node_full returned empty — history node lost")
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}
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}
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// conv_history_load — restore conversation history from engram on first access.
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@@ -640,21 +637,6 @@ fn handle_chat_agentic(body: String) -> String {
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// Thread-aware activation: same logic as handle_chat.
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// Use the session's or global history to anchor short messages to the thread.
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let req_session: String = json_get(body, "session_id")
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// ISSUE #6/#7: validate that the session_id actually exists before proceeding.
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// Without this check the loop silently treats any unknown/fabricated session_id
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// as a fresh session — history loads as empty and no error is returned to the caller.
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// Only validate when a session_id is explicitly provided; anonymous calls
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// (no session_id) continue to work for backward compatibility.
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let session_valid: Bool = if str_eq(req_session, "") {
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true
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} else {
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!str_contains(session_get(req_session), "\"error\"")
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}
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if !session_valid {
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return "{\"error\":\"session not found\",\"session_id\":\"" + req_session + "\",\"reply\":\"\"}"
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}
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let hist_key: String = if str_eq(req_session, "") { "conv_history" } else { "session_hist_" + req_session }
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let agentic_hist: String = state_get(hist_key)
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let agentic_hist_len: Int = if str_eq(agentic_hist, "") { 0 } else { json_array_len(agentic_hist) }
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@@ -1072,19 +1054,13 @@ fn handle_dharma_room_turn(body: String) -> String {
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// engram_node(content, "episodic", ...) which wrongly put a TIER into the node_type
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// slot — that's why nodes showed node_type="episodic". Use the full, correct contract.)
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let utterance_tags: String = "[\"soul-utterance\",\"episodic\"]"
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let utterance_id: String = engram_node_full(
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let discard_id: String = engram_node_full(
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clean_response, "Conversation", "soul:utterance",
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el_from_float(0.6), el_from_float(0.6), el_from_float(0.8),
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"Episodic", utterance_tags
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)
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if str_eq(utterance_id, "") {
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println("[chat] handle_dharma_room_turn: utterance engram write failed — node lost")
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}
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if !str_eq(snap_path, "") {
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let save_result: String = engram_save(snap_path)
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if str_eq(save_result, "") {
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println("[chat] handle_dharma_room_turn: engram_save failed for " + snap_path)
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}
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let discard_save: String = engram_save(snap_path)
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}
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let safe_response: String = json_safe(clean_response)
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@@ -1166,7 +1142,7 @@ fn auto_persist(req: String, resp: String) -> Void {
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+ ",\"label\":\"chat:" + ts_str + "\"}"
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let tags: String = "[\"Conversation\",\"chat\",\"timestamped\"]"
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let persist_id: String = engram_node_full(
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engram_node_full(
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content,
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"Conversation",
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"chat:" + ts_str,
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@@ -1176,9 +1152,6 @@ fn auto_persist(req: String, resp: String) -> Void {
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"Episodic",
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tags
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)
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if str_eq(persist_id, "") {
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println("[chat] auto_persist: engram_node_full returned empty — conversation node lost (ts=" + ts_str + ")")
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}
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}
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// strengthen_chat_nodes — strengthen the engram nodes that were activated during a chat.
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@@ -0,0 +1,100 @@
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# Design proposal: searchable, recency-aware conversation memory
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Status: **proposal — for Tim + Will, no code yet**
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Author: Neuron (Claude Opus 4.8), 2026-06-21
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Trigger: "Summarize the key themes across my recent conversations" returns nothing useful.
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---
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## TL;DR
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Conversations **are** being persisted — `auto_persist` writes every turn as a
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timestamped `Conversation`/`Episodic` node. The failure is **retrieval**, not
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storage. Two gaps:
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1. **No recency-ordered retrieval.** There is no way to ask "give me my last N
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conversation turns by time." Search is keyword-ranked only.
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2. **Lexical-only search.** `search_memory` → `engram_search_json` is BM25/lexical.
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A semantic/thematic query ("themes across recent conversations") doesn't share
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keywords with the actual topic content, so it misses.
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The model literally tried to express the missing capability in the fake tool call
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it hallucinated: `"recency_weight": 0.8`, `"sort_by": "recency"`,
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`node_type: "ConversationTurn"`. It wanted a recency-windowed conversation fetch
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that doesn't exist.
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## What exists today (verified)
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- `auto_persist(req, resp)` (chat.el): after each non-agentic turn, stores
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`{"q","a","created_at","source":"chat","label":"chat:<ts>"}` as
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`engram_node_full(... "Conversation" ... "Episodic" ...)`, tags
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`["Conversation","chat","timestamped"]`.
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- `conv_history_persist` (chat.el): a **single overwriting** `conv:history`
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Episodic node holding the rolling JSON history (continuity across restarts) —
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not per-turn, not individually searchable.
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- Live engram (founder instance): **5,113 nodes, 59 conversation nodes** — a mix
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of `chat:<ts>`, several `conv:history` copies, and older `Q:/A:` nodes.
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- Retrieval surface for the agentic loop: `search_memory`, `recall`,
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`neuron_search_knowledge`, `neuron_recall` — all **query-keyword** based.
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None is "most recent N by time," none is embedding/semantic.
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## The gap, precisely
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| User intent | Needs | Have today |
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| "summarize my recent conversations" | last-N-by-time fetch | ✗ (keyword only) |
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| "what did we discuss about X" | semantic match on topic | ~ (lexical only; misses paraphrase) |
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| "themes across everything" | semantic cluster over corpus | ✗ |
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`auto_persist` only fires on the **non-agentic** path (`handle_chat`). Worth
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confirming the **agentic** path (`handle_chat_agentic`) persists turns too — if
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not, agentic conversations never get stored, a second (smaller) gap.
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## Proposal
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Three layers, smallest-first. (1) alone fixes the headline use case.
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### 1. Recency-windowed conversation retrieval (the high-value, low-cost win)
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A runtime/engram primitive + an agentic tool:
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- **Engram**: `engram_recent_by_type(node_type, limit, since_ts?)` → newest-first
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by `created_at`. (Conversation nodes already carry `created_at`.)
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- **Agentic tool**: `recent_conversations(limit=20, since?)` →
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`[{q,a,created_at}, …]`, newest first. Exposed in `agentic_tools_all`.
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- **System-prompt hint**: for "recent / lately / this week / summarize our
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conversations," prefer `recent_conversations` over `search_memory`.
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This directly answers "summarize my recent conversations" — fetch last N, hand
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the model the actual turns, let it cluster themes. No embeddings required.
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### 2. Stable per-session threading
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Today each turn is an independent `chat:<ts>` node; there's no session grouping.
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Add `session_id` + a monotonic turn index to the persisted content (the UI already
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sends `session_id`). Enables "summarize *this* conversation" and per-session recall,
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and lets retrieval return coherent threads instead of loose turns.
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### 3. Semantic retrieval (the real fix for thematic queries)
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Lexical BM25 can't do "themes." Options, in order of effort:
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- **a.** Embeddings on Conversation nodes + a vector search tool
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(`semantic_search`). Biggest lift; also fixes knowledge recall broadly.
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- **b.** Interim: a two-pass "map-reduce" — `recent_conversations` to pull the
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window, then let the model cluster. Cheap, ships with (1), no infra.
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Recommend **(1) + (2) now, (3b) as the interim thematic answer, (3a) as the
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roadmap item** once embeddings land (this dovetails with the GraphRAG/embedding
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work already noted in memory: substring 1.7% P@5 vs BM25 55% vs graph 21.7%).
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## Open questions for Will
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1. ~~Does the agentic path persist turns?~~ **Resolved: yes** — the dispatcher
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calls `auto_persist` after both the agentic and non-agentic branches
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(`routes.el` lines 156/298). Both paths store per-turn nodes.
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2. `conv:history` is accumulating duplicate overwriting nodes (saw several in the
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live engram) — intended, or should it truly overwrite/dedupe?
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3. Is there appetite for the `engram_recent_by_type` primitive in the runtime, or
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should recency be done in `.el` by scanning + sorting (fine at 59 nodes, weak
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at scale)?
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4. Embeddings (3a): on the roadmap timeline, or defer and ship (1)+(2)+(3b)?
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## Not in scope
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Persistence itself (it works), and the separate **confabulation** fix (model
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faking tool calls in Just-chat mode) — that's `neuron` PR #29.
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@@ -46,10 +46,7 @@ fn mem_consolidate() -> String {
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}
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fn mem_save(path: String) -> Void {
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let save_result: String = engram_save(path)
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if str_eq(save_result, "") {
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println("[memory] mem_save: engram_save failed for " + path + " — snapshot may be incomplete")
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}
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engram_save(path)
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}
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fn mem_load(path: String) -> Void {
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@@ -79,14 +76,11 @@ fn mem_boot_count_inc() -> Int {
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let next: Int = current + 1
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let content: String = "soul:boot_count:" + int_to_str(next)
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let tags: String = "[\"soul-meta\",\"boot-counter\"]"
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let boot_node_id: String = engram_node_full(
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let discard: String = engram_node_full(
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content, "Memory", "soul:boot_count",
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el_from_float(0.9), el_from_float(0.9), el_from_float(1.0),
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"Canonical", tags
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)
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if str_eq(boot_node_id, "") {
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println("[memory] mem_boot_count_inc: engram write failed — boot counter node lost (count=" + int_to_str(next) + ")")
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}
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return next
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}
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+2
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@@ -400,7 +400,6 @@ fn handle_api_log_state_event(body: String) -> String {
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let id: String = engram_node_full(parts, "InternalStateEvent", "state-event:manual",
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el_from_float(0.85), el_from_float(0.85), el_from_float(0.9),
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"Episodic", tags)
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if !api_persisted(id) { return api_not_persisted(id) }
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return "{\"ok\":true,\"id\":\"" + id + "\",\"boot\":\"" + boot + "\"}"
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}
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@@ -453,7 +452,6 @@ fn handle_api_tune_config(body: String) -> String {
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let id: String = engram_node_full(content, "ConfigEntry", key,
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el_from_float(0.85), el_from_float(0.85), el_from_float(0.9),
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"Canonical", tags)
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if !api_persisted(id) { return api_not_persisted(id) }
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return "{\"ok\":true,\"key\":\"" + key + "\",\"value\":\"" + value + "\",\"id\":\"" + id + "\"}"
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}
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@@ -653,23 +651,17 @@ fn handle_api_consolidate(body: String) -> String {
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let summary: String = json_get(body, "summary")
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let snap: String = state_get("soul_snapshot_path")
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if !str_eq(snap, "") {
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let save_result: String = engram_save(snap)
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if str_eq(save_result, "") {
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println("[api] consolidate: engram_save failed for " + snap + " — snapshot may be out of sync")
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}
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engram_save(snap)
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}
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if !str_eq(summary, "") {
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let safe_summary: String = str_replace(summary, "\"", "'")
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let tags: String = "[\"SessionSummary\",\"consolidate\"]"
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let summary_id: String = engram_node_full(
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let discard: String = engram_node_full(
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"[session-summary] " + safe_summary,
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"SessionSummary", "session:summary",
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el_from_float(0.7), el_from_float(0.7), el_from_float(0.9),
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"Episodic", tags
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)
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if str_eq(summary_id, "") {
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println("[api] consolidate: session summary engram write failed — summary node lost")
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}
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}
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return "{\"ok\":true,\"snapshot\":\"" + snap + "\"}"
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}
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@@ -212,13 +212,8 @@ fn seed_persona_from_env() -> Void {
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let h: Map = {}
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map_set(h, "Content-Type", "application/json")
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let resp: String = http_post_with_headers(engram_url + "/api/nodes", body, h)
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// Check for empty response (timeout/network error), explicit error, or missing id.
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if str_eq(resp, "") {
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println("[soul] persona HTTP write-back failed: empty response (timeout or network error) — in-memory only this session")
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} else if str_contains(resp, "\"error\"") {
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if str_contains(resp, "\"error\"") {
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println("[soul] persona HTTP write-back failed (in-memory only this session): " + resp)
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} else if !str_contains(resp, "\"id\"") {
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println("[soul] persona HTTP write-back: unexpected response (no id field) — in-memory only this session: " + resp)
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} else {
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println("[soul] persona persisted to HTTP engram at " + engram_url)
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}
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@@ -251,14 +246,11 @@ fn emit_session_start_event() -> Void {
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+ ",\"ts\":" + int_to_str(ts) + "}"
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let tags: String = "[\"internal-state\",\"session-start\",\"InternalStateEvent\"]"
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let session_event_id: String = engram_node_full(
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let discard: String = engram_node_full(
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payload, "InternalStateEvent", "session-start",
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el_from_float(0.9), el_from_float(0.9), el_from_float(1.0),
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"Episodic", tags
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)
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if str_eq(session_event_id, "") {
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println("[soul] emit_session_start_event: engram write failed — session-start event lost")
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}
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println("[soul] session-start event logged (boot=" + boot_num + " nodes=" + int_to_str(node_ct) + " edges=" + int_to_str(edge_ct) + ")")
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}
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